[KWPeace-groups] Potluck Meeting for Summer 2018: Thu 19
Marion Markham
markham_marion at yahoo.ca
Fri Aug 3 13:06:38 EDT 2018
thanks, Sue!
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 at 11:59 AM, Sue Klassen<sueklassen at gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for these minutes, Mo. Taking minutes on a phone helps force conciseness. I appreciate the point form notes with good clear headings and spacings.
Sue
> On Aug 1, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Bob Jonkman <bobjonkman at kwpeace.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone! Here are the meeting notes of our Potluck Meeting for
> Summer 2018. Many thanx to Mo Markham for taking notes, and many thanx
> to Scott Cressman for taking pictures.
>
> Please let me know if there are any corrections, additions, or changes
> that need to be made...
>
> You can also find the meeting notes online at
> http://kwpeace.ca/meeting-minutes/minutes-of-potluck-meeting-for-summer-2018/ <http://kwpeace.ca/meeting-minutes/minutes-of-potluck-meeting-for-summer-2018/>
>
> --Bob.
>
>
> =====
>
> KWPeace Potluck Meeting for Summer 2018
>
> Date
> Thursday, 19 July 2018
> Location
> Peace and Justice Room, Stirling Avenue Mennonite Church, 57
> Stirling Avenue North, Kitchener Map <https://osm.org/go/ZXnwZqzh--?m= <https://osm.org/go/ZXnwZqzh--?m=>>
> Present
>
> * Sharon Sommerville (Fair Vote Waterloo, Alliance Against Poverty,
> Council of Canadians, Yes Cambridge)
> * Esther Kern (Christian Peacemakers Team)
> * Aleksandra Petrovic (Social Development Centre Waterloo Region)
> * Gehan Sabry (Cross Cultures)
> * Dwyer Sullivan (Conscience Canada, Educators For Justice, Camp Micah)
> * Mary Groh (Conscience Canada)
> * Charles (Social Development Centre Waterloo Region, Disabilities and
> Human Rights Project)
> * Ellen Papenburg (Council of Canadians, Animal Protection Party of
> Canada, Funeral Advisory and Memorial Society of South and East
> Ontario)
> * Mo Markham (KW Animal Save, KW Vegan Society, Mother Earth Save, KW
> Climate Save)
> * Sue Klassen (Alternative Vision for Peace, Stirling Avenue Mennonite
> Church Peace and Justice Committee)
> * Megan Ruttan (Citizens Climate Lobby)
> * Cathy Scott (Fair Vote Waterloo)
> * Jim Sannes (Council of Canadians, Unitarian Church Peace Outreach)
> * Bob Jonkman (WR Nonviolence, Green Party, Fair Vote Waterloo)
> * Scott Miller Cressman
>
>
> Meeting Notes
>
>
> WR Nonviolence Day In The Park
>
> The day in the park is Saturday, July 21st, on Roos Island in
> Victoria Park, and many of us participated. (The rain held off until
> just about 5pm. YAY!) ... Bob or Matthew
>
>
> Photography At This Meeting
>
> Scott Miller Cressman from WR Nonviolence took some photos at the
> meeting, at Bob's request. He is hoping to post on some of the
> social media sites, including KW Peace:
>
> http://kwpeace.ca/pictures-from-the-kwpeace-potluck-meeting-for-summer-2018/ <http://kwpeace.ca/pictures-from-the-kwpeace-potluck-meeting-for-summer-2018/>
>
>
>
> KW Peace Blog
>
> From Bob:
>
> o Please contribute!
> + An invitation for all groups to post to the blog.
> + http://kwpeace.ca/posts/ <http://kwpeace.ca/posts/>
>
>
> Civic Hub
>
> From Aleksandra:
>
> o We have a chance to move ahead with the idea of a Civic Hub and
> I can ask how important is that civic space to the groups that
> come to the potluck. The idea would be to be cross-promoting as
> well.
> o *If yes,* I would have specific questions for the groups such as:
> + the need for the space (meetings, work, events, etc.)
> + the times the space would be mostly used (evenings,
> weekends... )
> + other logistics needed in the space for the first while
> (telephone,Internet, printing, scanning, storage, etc.)
> o link to survey re civic hub:
> http://www.waterlooregion.org/civic-hub-survey <http://www.waterlooregion.org/civic-hub-survey>
>
>
> Municipal Elections
>
> Aleksandra:
>
> o doesn't have anything for this year.
> + the pages are from 2014 meet the candidates...
>
> http://www.waterlooregion.org/kitchener-all-candidates-october-21 <http://www.waterlooregion.org/kitchener-all-candidates-october-21>
>
> o we would be looking at a different model, simpler and somewhat
> creative to host a dialogue with people and candidates on the
> local issues.
>
>
> Blanket Workshop
>
> from Hannah Enns:
>
> o Blanket Workshop taking place on July 25th at Seven Shores
> Community Cafe...
> o Register at
> http://www.sevenshores.ca/events-1/2018/7/25/blanket-exercise <http://www.sevenshores.ca/events-1/2018/7/25/blanket-exercise>
> o Tickets:
>
> $25/settler (non-indigenous)
> $15/student/low-income/refugee
> Free for Indigenous folks
>
> o What does it mean to be a treaty person today in
> Kitchener-Waterloo? What is the untold history in Canadian
> society about colonization and movements of resistance? How do
> you push yourself to unsettle the settler within?
>
>
> Perspectives On Peace (KW Peace)
>
> o Laura Hamilton has arranged for KW Peace to use the Rotunda at
> City Hall on Saturday, 27 October 2018 from noon to 2:00pm
> (setup at 11:00am). Tamara Lorincz will be the speaker, and Food
> Not Bombs will provide snacks.
> o All KWPeace groups are invited to have display or information
> tables around the rotunda.
>
> " ...we're calling the event "/Perspectives on Peace/" or "/KWPeace
> Connections/".
>
>
> Grant Applicant Needed
>
> From Laura:
>
> o We need someone to apply to the city for an in-kind facilities
> grant for our October 27 perspectives on peace event. See below
> regarding the event, and contact Bob or Mo regarding applying
> for the grant. This is the application:
> https://www.kitchener.ca/en/city-services/grants.aspx <https://www.kitchener.ca/en/city-services/grants.aspx>
> + Sharon has agreed to do this
>
>
> KW Peace co-sponsor film?
>
> From Tamara:
>
> o Wondering if KW Peace would "co-sponsor" a screening of the film
> /A Bold Peace: Costa Rica's Path to Demilitarization/ that she
> is hoping to screen at Conrad Grebel with Project Ploughshares
> this fall (likely early November) as this year is the 70th
> anniversary that Costa Rica abolished its army. The movie is a
> very powerful. It wouldn't cost KW Peace anything to
> "co-sponsor" just to add our "moral" support. More info about
> the film is at: http://aboldpeace.com/ <http://aboldpeace.com/>
> + we agreed we'd be happy to do this
>
>
> Updates On Our Groups
>
>
> Fairvote
>
> Sharon & Bob:
>
> o meeting with Bardish Chagger and Karen Gould ... was Bardish who
> suggested the meeting, which is new!
> o Fairvote Waterloo and Fairvote Canada collaborating
> o there was a pop-up rally when Karen Gould was here ... we got
> lots of support with honking etcetera
> o national and provincial chapters of fairvote are meeting
> o fairvote social next week at Sharon's
> o need national education campaign but there is no money for this
> o YES Cambridge ... they're trying to get a ranked ballot for
> Cambridge municipal elections... Fairvote is supporting this
> because it's a beginning and people would have the opportunity
> to get used to an alternative voting system
>
>
> Alliance Against Poverty
>
> Sharon Sommerville:
>
> o free transit requested ... there will be (was) a pledge at the
> Nonviolence Day in the Park
>
>
> Council of Canadians
>
> Sharon Sommerville:
>
> o attended all-candidates meeting
> o will help establish A Chapter Ontario health coalition ... they
> have a couple meetings coming up
> o they are discussing the privatization of healthcare etc
>
>
> Waterloo Region Nonviolence
>
> Bob Jonkman:
>
> o 26 exhibitors now for the nonviolence day in the park compared
> to 15 last year
> o then IDOPAN (/International Days Of Peace And Nonviolence/) is
> coming up, and they have 3+ events planned
> + human peace sign
> + games night (fundraiser for sexual assault center and recovery)
> + and maybe a ...meditation for peace,
> + a movie night & discuss peace and democracy
>
>
> KW Peace
>
> Bob Jonkman:
>
> o Web site statistics:
> + Steady hits 400/day
> + Events <https://kwpeace.ca/events <https://kwpeace.ca/events>> page alone gets 2000 hits
> in 2 months
> + KW Vegfest <http://kwpeace.ca/event/kw-vegfest/ <http://kwpeace.ca/event/kw-vegfest/>> is the top
> page since May 2018 with 262 hits
> + 6 Month Statistics:
> # Perspectives On Peace
>
> <http://kwpeace.ca/eventsmanager/perspectives-on-peace-local-approaches-for-positive-change/ <http://kwpeace.ca/eventsmanager/perspectives-on-peace-local-approaches-for-positive-change/>>
> top non-Events page with 5788 hits
> # KW Vegfest <http://kwpeace.ca/event/kw-vegfest/ <http://kwpeace.ca/event/kw-vegfest/>> second
> place with 477 hits
> # Various Potluck Meeting events rank from 6 to 10
> + Search Terms:
> # nonviolence waterloo day in the park
> # where to vote in elmira%2C ontario
> # vegan festival waterloo june
> o we have free web hosting
> + but we need pay for our domain name in October
> o /Perspectives On Peace/
> + October 27 noon to 2:00pm...
> + Tamara Lorincz speaking on violence and climate change;
> + food available from Food Not Bombs;
> + all groups in KW Peace can have tables
> o all agree to us co-sponsoring the film
> o Megan Ruttan will help Tamara with the film
> o application in-kind grant for the use of City Hall... Sharon
> will apply
>
>
> Green Party
>
> o very successful last election ... in Waterloo Region three of
> the Green candidates were in 90th percentile for Ontario
> ridings; all five WR candidates in 80th percentile
> o approached by Guelph and Brantford to collaborate???
> o Green Party has an MPP in provincial parliament now for the
> first time ever!
>
>
> Social Action Committee Unitarian
>
> Jim Sannes:
>
> o attended the all-candidates meeting re municipal election
>
>
> Funeral Advisory and Memorial society (FAMS) of South and
> Eastern Ontario
>
> Ellen Papenburg:
>
> o green burial
> o they're working on London and KW and other cities
> o many thought had reached goal, but no
> o still lot funeral homes don't show list options even though
> obligated to show
> o funerals can be done very cheaply but people not made aware
> o Bereavement Authority of Ontario exists at to ensure laws
> followed... FAMS works with them, but there are some ongoing
> issues with BAO re green burial, and composting human remains
>
>
> Animal Protection Party
>
> o Ellen may run for the party
> o she met with Dutch /Party for the Animals/... they have five
> seats in their parliament because they have proportional
> representation
>
>
> Disability and Human Rights
>
> Charles:
>
> o help for people with disabilities
> o they were also at the all-candidates meeting
> o there's also an advisory group through disability services on
> campuses
>
>
> Citizens' Climate Lobby
>
> Megan Ruttan:
>
> o coming up ... talking Kai Raimer-Watts re event Sept... /Beyond
> Crisis/ film may be shown
> o need motivate people get involved ... get past despair and into
> action
>
>
> Divest Waterloo
>
> o the film /Directly Affected/ was at KPL with three area members
> of parliament and speakers. The audience was quite vocal about
> their concerns for the climate.
>
>
> Alternatives to Violence Project
>
> Sue Klassen:
>
> o looking for more facilitators (not lecturing ... experiential)
> o it involves 18 hrs of training... communication skills, using
> power to respect all, non Violence etc
> o in prisons or outside
> o $90 for training unless $ not possible
> o speak to Sue if you're interested
>
>
> KW Animal Save and Kitchener-Waterloo Climate Save
>
> Mo Markham:
>
> o KWCS was one of the organizers for KW's first VegFest on July
> 7th in front of City Hall
> + 3000 people
> + coverage from CTV News
> # two speakers, one of them talking about climate and
> animal Agriculture, and the other about the
> intersectionality between speciesism and racism and
> sexism Etc
> + the film Sea of Life was shown as well, and the filmmaker
> came for a Q&A
> o we also attended sarnia vegfest, and the nonviolence day in the
> park
> o a member of another of the animal rights groups in Kitchener,
> Malcolm, is on trial right now for breaking in and filming the
> deplorable conditions in several Ontario mink farms. He
> submitted the films to the OSPCA. No action has been taken by
> the OSPCA, but one "farm" is charging him, and another one may
> as well
> o /be save/ movement and many other environmental and animal
> rights groups I had a large protest in Ottawa on July 14th
> called Nation Rising, demanding that the federal government stop
> subsidizing animal Agriculture and, thereby, subsidizing climate
> change, to the tune of billions of dollars every year
> o we will be promoting an Australian animal rights film,
> /Dominion/, in universities and colleges in the fall. It is a
> brutal but realistic film about what happens to the animals in
> animal agriculture
> o we are still trying to promote the film /Sea of Life/, an
> award-winning environmental film made by a high school student
> in Burlington, in high schools, if anyone has any connections
> o also trying to promote other films across world, and I have
> started the save movement animal rights film page to try and
> encourage people to show films as much as possible
> o we continue to do monthly vigils Atlee slaughterhouse outside of
> Kitchener, and we do outreach on the street as well
> o we are starting an Adopt-A-School campaign in the fall to target
> high schools as much as possible
> o some of the local sanctuaries needing financial support and
> practical help as well, and most of them have times available
> where people can visit with children, or come to help out with
> Farm chores
> o the /Save Movement/ started in Toronto 8 years ago, and now has
> 420 groups in 50 countries, and we are actively growing this
> number and recruiting organizers in other countries.
> o we made upcycled shirts to sell at our booths this year...
> bought Thrift store shirts and had them printed ... more
> environmentally friendly and more economical
> o we attended both days of the Benjamin Stein trial and
> sentencing, and had an online petition that got several thousand
> signatures regarding the farmer who left several thousand pigs
> to die in his barn without heat or food ... the petition was to
> ask that part of his sentencing be that he never have animals in
> his care again ... the petition was largely for a media
> attention, which we got, but in fact this is one of the
> conditions he was given, except domesticated animals such as
> cats and dogs were excluded from his sentence . .. this was the
> largest case of animal cruelty in Canadian history ... almost
> all of the media around it was local to Simcoe and Brantford,
> unfortunately, despite the magnitude of the case... he pleaded
> mental health issues, and got no jail time at all
>
>
> Scott
>
> o attended the meeting to take some pictures
> o former journalist and blogging and websites, and he is looking
> for volunteer opportunities
>
>
> Conscience Canada
>
> Mary Groh:
>
> o will be at nonviolence fest
> o people don't want support military with taxes
> o can withhold tax and send the money to Conscience Canada to hold
> in a peace tax trust fund ... can get it back from CC if CRA
> comes after you
> o or you can do a peace objection without holding funds from CRA
> o started by Mennonites and Quakers
> o they'll have a table at the /Beyond War/ conference
> o Tamara spoke at one of their meetings re climate change spending
> and military spending
> o Trudeau increased military spending and no MP objected,
> including Elizabeth May
> o trying get bill thru Congress to allow conscientious objectors
> to be allowed to not fund war
> o Stephen Woodworth ... ???
>
>
> Palestine meetings
>
> Dwyer Sullivan:
>
> o Israel just voted themselves to be called a Jewish State ...
> official now ... apartheid-like
> o monthly vigil outside the embassy
>
>
> Camp Micah
>
> Dwyer Sullivan:
>
> o August 19 to 24
> o usually 60 people at the camp, but don't have that many this
> year so far
> o it's a leadership and peace and justice camp
> o there are a number of Syrian refugees attending
> o inclusive camp ... have more spots ... 3rd week August... high
> school or on way into ... usually grades 9/ 10 / 11 ... or
> mature grade 8
> o funding ... many free ... money never problem
> o need more attendants
>
>
> Cross Cultures
>
> Gehan Sabry:
>
> o restoring common ground... monument at Victoria Park, it's in
> the works ... unveiled mock-up of it
> o now indigenous group looking at ???
> o will partner with indigenous scholars and others to discuss
> water in the area
> o maybe in the spring an event called Arabian Nights ... with
> artists, documentaries, discussions and booths etc with
> different groups from various Arab countries.... maybe get
> Montreal and Vancouver to host a similar event as well
> o she needs help with organizing it
>
>
> Gehan on her own
>
> o is taking the city on
> o seniors advisory committee involved
> o snow removal ... city not taking responsibility ... pitting
> people against each other. She wants the city to take
> responsibility for snow removal
>
>
> Mennonite Central Committee
>
> Esther Kern:
>
> o Mennonite Central Committee is sponsoring a speaking tour of two
> young adults from Israel from October 23 - 29. The first one is
> Tarek Zoughbi, a Palestinian Christian who works with Wi'am - a
> Palestinian Reconciliation group in Bethlehem. The second one is
> a Quaker Israeli Conscientous Objector, ((I don't have her name
> --Mo)). They are looking for venues, and especially an audience
> of young adults. Contact Laura VanderGreindt at the MCC office
> if interested in hosting them. lauravandergreindt at mcco.ca <mailto:lauravandergreindt at mcco.ca>
>
>
> Justice for Palestine
>
> Esther Kern:
>
> o I met with my MP, Irene Mathyssen in May after the attacks on
> Gaza protesters. She was part of the MP Delegation to
> Israel/Palestine in March and is putting together a Power Point
> presentation of her experiences, and wants audiences to speak
> to. She is very sympathetic and supportive of justice for
> Palestinians. Let Esther know if you have a venue for her!
> estherk at cpt.org <mailto:estherk at cpt.org>
>
>
> Christian Peacemakers
>
> Esther Kern:
>
> o Skylight Festival at Five Oaks Education and Retreat Center,
> Paris, ON - July 27 - 29. Esther is representing CPT and leading
> a workshop on Palestinian justice. www.skylightfestival.ca <http://www.skylightfestival.ca/>
> o Canadian Voices of Women for Peace Retreat at Hub and Hearth,
> August 17 - 19. Esther is a resource for the weekend, speaking
> on peacemaking initiatives. info at vowpeace.org <mailto:info at vowpeace.org>
> o MC Canada Resolution Working Group - will be starting to meet
> again in September, with new initiatives on the agenda.
> o CPT will be (was) represented at the Day at the Park, with
> Waterloo Region Nonviolence Group
> o Rizwan - a Student from Pakistan in the MPACS program at Grebel
> is available to speak in churches or other groups about his
> peace and nonviolence work in the country, and the persecution
> directed toward Christians.
>
> =====
>
>
>
> On 2018-07-18 03:36 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>> Hi everyone! A quick reminder and an agenda for tomorrow's KWPeace
>> Potluck Meeting. Everyone is welcome!
>>
>> *What*: KWPeace Potluck Meeting for Summer 2018
>> *When*: Thursday, 19 July 2018 from 6:00pm to 8:00pm
>> *Where*: Stirling Avenue Mennonite Church
>> *Location*: 57 Stirling Avenue North, Kitchener, Ontario
>>
>>
>> == Agenda ==
>> Please send brief updates and upcoming events to Mo at
>> mo.markham at kwpeace.ca so we can include them in the minutes of the
>> meeting. Thanks!
>>
>> === Photography At This Meeting ===
>> From Scott Cressman: Scott would like to take some photos at the
>> meeting, if people are okay with this, but he will not photograph anyone
>> who doesn’t want to be photographed. He is hoping to take some pictures
>> to post on some of the social media sites, and he will explain more at
>> the meeting.
>>
>> === Updates of Our Groups ===
>> We’ll each give updates on our groups.
>>
>> === Upcoming Events ===
>> We’ll each share upcoming events.
>>
>> === WR Nonviolence Day In The Park ===
>> The Day In The Park is coming up this Saturday, July 21st, on Roos
>> Island in Victoria Park, and many of us will be participating. Speak to
>> Bob Jonkman or Matthew Albrecht if you have questions.
>>
>> === Grant Applicant Needed ===
>> From Laura Hamilton (KW Peace): We need someone to apply to the city for
>> an in-kind facilities grant for our October 27 Perspectives On Peace
>> event. See below regarding the event, and contact Bob Jonkman or Mo
>> Markham regarding applying for the grant. This is the application is at
>> https://www.kitchener.ca/en/city-services/grants.aspx
>>
>> === KW Peace Blog ===
>> From Bob (KW Peace): An invitation for all groups to post to the blog.
>> http://kwpeace.ca/posts/
>>
>> === Civic Hub ===
>> From Aleksandra Petrovic (Social Development Centre Waterloo Region): We
>> have a chance to move ahead with the idea of a Civic Hub and I can ask
>> how important is that civic space to the groups that come to the
>> potluck. If yes, I would have specific questions for the groups such as:
>> the need for the space (meetings, work, events, etc.)
>> the times the space would be mostly used (evenings, weekends… )
>> other logistics needed in the space for the first while (telephone,
>> Internet, printing, scanning, storage, etc.)
>>
>> === Blanket Workshop ===
>> from Hannah Enns: Blanket workshop taking place on July 25th at Seven
>> Shores Community Cafe… Register at
>> http://www.sevenshores.ca/events-1/2018/7/25/blanket-exercise. Tickets:
>> $25/settler (non-indigenous); $15/student/low-income/refugee; Free for
>> Indigenous folks. What does it mean to be a treaty person today in
>> Kitchener-Waterloo? What is the untold history in Canadian society about
>> colonization and movements of resistance? How do you push yourself to
>> unsettle the settler within?
>>
>> === Perspectives On Peace ===
>> Laura Hamilton has arranged for KWPeace to use the Rotunda at City Hall
>> on Saturday, 27 October 2018 from noon to 2:00pm (setup at 11:00am).
>> Tamara Lorincz will be the speaker, and I believe Food Not Bombs will
>> provide snacks. All KWPeace groups are invited to have display or
>> information tables around the rotunda. …we’re calling the event
>> “Perspectives on Peace” or “KWPeace Connections”.
>>
>> === KW Peace co-sponsor film? ===
>> From Tamara Lorincz: She’s wondering if KW Peace would “co-sponsor” a
>> screening of the film A Bold Peace: Costa Rica’s Path to
>> Demilitarization that she is hoping to screen at Conrad Grebel with
>> Project Ploughshares this fall (likely early November) as this year is
>> the 70th anniversary that Costa Rica abolished its army. The movie is a
>> very powerful. It wouldn’t cost KW Peace anything to “co-sponsor” just
>> to add “moral” support. (Tamara can’t be at the meeting on Thursday.)
>> More info about the film is at http://aboldpeace.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-06 12:21 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone! It’s time we held another information sharing and planning
>>> meeting, and had some wonderful potluck food.
>>>
>>> Every few months the organizers of many different peace, social justice,
>>> environmental, political, and spiritual organizations from Waterloo
>>> Region come together to share what they’re doing in the community,
>>> invite each other to participate, and possibly collaborate on new
>>> ventures. Everyone is invited! It’s a potluck meeting, so bring some
>>> food or a beverage to share, and enjoy all the different dishes others
>>> have brought. The food is mostly vegetarian, some vegan, some gluten-free.
>>>
>>> Many thanks to our hosts at the Stirling Avenue Mennonite Church for
>>> letting us use the Peace and Justice room again!
>>>
>>> *What*: KWPeace Potluck Meeting for Summer 2018
>>> *When*: Thursday, 19 July 2018 from 6:00pm to 8:00pm
>>> *Where*: Peace and Justice Room, Stirling Avenue Mennonite Church
>>> *Location*: 57 Stirling Avenue North, Kitchener, Ontario
>>> *Map*: https://osm.org/go/ZXnwZqzh--?m=
>>>
>>> See you all soon!
>>>
>>> --Bob.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Jonkman bobjonkman at kwpeace.ca
>>> https://kwpeace.ca/
>>> KWPeace - Event Schedule for Peace and Social Justice Activists in KW
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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